The Official Dieworkwear Appreciation Thread

[symphvaria]

To be fair, one guy always looks severely constipated

 

[Sirguywhosmiles]

I see Derek now has received some push-back from Daniel Craig fans, and they are now on the receiving end of a lecture/thread. He reminds me of an argumentative Oxford don, who will subject any overheard or sotto voce comment to a full and rigorous analysis.

His choice of photographs continues to be clever; using a picture of Connery-as-Bond as the "correct" example for comparison with Craig's "incorrect"

 

[Funposter]

Tucker fit proves the rule that you should always sit down when trying on pants. I'm sure it looks "fine" while he's standing, ignoring the lopsided silhouette as Derek pointed out.

 

[DorianGreen]

I see Derek now has received some push-back from Daniel Craig fans, and they are now on the receiving end of a lecture/thread. He reminds me of an argumentative Oxford don, who will subject any overheard or sotto voce comment to a full and rigorous analysis.

His choice of photographs continues to be clever; using a picture of Connery-as-Bond as the "correct" example for comparison with Craig's "incorrect"

He's absolutely right in his critique to Craig's clothing, ridiculously skimpy.

 

[LA Guy]

I see Derek now has received some push-back from Daniel Craig fans, and they are now on the receiving end of a lecture/thread. He reminds me of an argumentative Oxford don, who will subject any overheard or sotto voce comment to a full and rigorous analysis.

His choice of photographs continues to be clever; using a picture of Connery-as-Bond as the "correct" example for comparison with Craig's "incorrect"

I've always disagreed with Derek about this. I don't think that Daniel Craig's Bond as wearing his suits well, but as wearing the suits as his Bond would wear them in a contemporary context. Craig's Bond is fundamentally English working class, and wears suits the way a working class guy without much regard for protocol or decorum, a point that is stressed over and over again in the Craig Bond movies, might prefer to wear them. So, do I think that it looks great? No. But do I think that it better fits the character than something that, but traditional standards, absolutely.

 

[sushijerk]

I've always disagreed with Derek about this. I don't think that Daniel Craig's Bond as wearing his suits well, but as wearing the suits as his Bond would wear them in a contemporary context. Craig's Bond is fundamentally English working class, and wears suits the way a working class guy without much regard for protocol or decorum, a point that is stressed over and over again in the Craig Bond movies, might prefer to wear them. So, do I think that it looks great? No. But do I think that it better fits the character than something that, but traditional standards, absolutely.

But is Daniel Craig's Bond working class? Skyfall shows he grows up in what is essentially in the mansion of a scottish lord, although he was orphaned early and I guess spent his formative years training in to be a spy after M found him.

 

[Spaghettimatt]

I've always disagreed with Derek about this. I don't think that Daniel Craig's Bond as wearing his suits well, but as wearing the suits as his Bond would wear them in a contemporary context. Craig's Bond is fundamentally English working class, and wears suits the way a working class guy without much regard for protocol or decorum, a point that is stressed over and over again in the Craig Bond movies, might prefer to wear them. So, do I think that it looks great? No. But do I think that it better fits the character than something that, but traditional standards, absolutely.

I think you are overthinking this. The suits fit like **** and it’s not intentional.

 

[sushijerk]

Tbh I just think the suit was cut for him using his film measurements and he probably gained weight between then and the press run which is why it fits weird.

 

[LA Guy]

But is Daniel Craig's Bond working class? Skyfall shows he grows up in what is essentially in the mansion of a scottish lord, although he was orphaned early and I guess spent his formative years training in to be a spy after M found him.

iirc, part of his backstory is that he grew up in an orphanage starting at maybe 10 years old.

 

[LA Guy]

I think you are overthinking this. The suits fit like **** and it’s not intentional.

Maybe - I suppose that we'll never know unless there is an interview with the wardrobe department. Whether or not the fit is intentional, I that that it adds a little to the movies in making Craig's Bond more human, and the movies more watchable. I've always found the prior Bond movies mindnumbingly boring. There's absolutely no tension in them.

 

[abkain]

Yeah, but doesn't Daniel Craig wear ill fitting suits even when not in Bond character?

 

[Texasmade]

Yeah, but doesn't Daniel Craig wear ill fitting suits even when not in Bond character?

Sometimes but not all the time. I always thought that DC did casual clothing James Bond really well but dressed up JB was terrible.

 

[tgaith77]

Yeah, the idea that Craig's overly slim-fitting suits is an intentional wardrobe decision seems a bit far-fetched. The fact that James Bond stans are always drooling over his fits seems to confirm that.

 

[ericgereghty]

Derek's tweet takes...aren't that good?
1. DC's fits are far too slim. Intentional or otherwise, if the intent is anything approximating CM...it ain't.
2. King/prince (who really cares?) of Spain's fit is...eh? No doubt the quality is top class...but the idea that the look itself is head and shoulders above the normies is silly. Midsection far too slim, if nothing else. You can find better fits (RTW) in the Spier thread.
3. The "proper" suit sans tie = always terrible is a hoot. The kind of hogwash D would say only so and so ('ello Mr. Boyer!) could pull off. Would said suit look better with a tie and/or with a more casual suiting? No doubt.
But, the idea that it is indefensibly bad (regardless of fit, etc.) is just fawking stupid.

 

[ericgereghty]

And, I like D, and follow him on Elon's dumfuck app, but his POV can be laughably dogmatic