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Duke Santos

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It is frustrating to say the least. Even cheap fast fashion rarely has the button issues SM seems to have. I have gotten in the habit of reinforcing the buttons I know are poorly attached as soon as I receive the product. Regarding a SM employee seeing your message or even making an appearance on here; I think we've all given up on that haha.

The inner button on one of my paper chinos went after exactly 2 wears and 1 gentle cycle wash. A couple of buttons on other chinos look like they might be ready to go. The rivet buttons on my canvas twill and 5 pocket cords have fared very well in contrast.

Luckily, my dry cleaner is very good at repairs and minor alterations. It's an added expense that shouldn't be unnecessary, but I know that button ain't going anywhere when I get it back.
 
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I'm so tired of all the issues with Spier's button threading. It seems like every garment I buy from them (aside from tailoring) has had janky buttons. I've lost buttons on their chinos, field jackets, chore coats, overcoats... nearly every casual shirt I've gotten has had unraveling threads on the buttons. It's a persistent QA failure and I'm over it. If any employees still read this forum please address.

Had this issue for years now. Shirts and outerwear. I know my way around a needle and thread so I've been able to fix it but still. QC has ALWAYS been a problem with S&M. I'm at the point with S&M that it's a "you get what you pay for" type of gamble.
 

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I'm so tired of all the issues with Spier's button threading. It seems like every garment I buy from them (aside from tailoring) has had janky buttons. I've lost buttons on their chinos, field jackets, chore coats, overcoats... nearly every casual shirt I've gotten has had unraveling threads on the buttons. It's a persistent QA failure and I'm over it. If any employees still read this forum please address.
I thought they just bought one of those fancy machines that seals the buttons preventing this, maybe it will take place on the FW pieces?
 

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Unrelated to the current comments about buttons (which luckily for me I have never experienced), I was just contemplating this weekend what an incredible value S&M can present - especially during one of their sales.

Was focusing on the VBC flannel chalk stripe suits:


The cloth in that suit is from VBC's Lady Sanfelice Flannels bunch. Nice cloth 340gsm (about 12oz). Same exact cloth used by Proper Cloth, Cavour, and others in suits that sell for way, way more than S&M's price.

Further, this cloth is sold through Drapers Italy (related company) and the non-trade price is just under 150 Euros a meter. I take one of the larger S&M sizes in suits (and I'm lucky that I get a very nice fit off the peg in their suits)...so conservatively to make such a suit for me I would have to consider buying 3.5 meters of this cloth.

At the non-trade price from Drapers Italy, just the VBC flannel cloth in the above suit in my size would cost me $777 Canadian.

That suit is currently on sale at S&M for $478 Canadian.

(Yes - I realize that tailors pay less for the cloth, and a big operator like S&M would pay even less again...but still...it presents an incredible - and likely unbeatable - value.)
 
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Hi everyone. Quick question for those that have experience with this.

Looking to buy a shirt that is sold out in my normal neck size. Thinking about sizing up in the neck but I noticed that the other dimensions (chest, waist, shoulder) are considerable larger, according to the size chart. Can anyone confirm this? The difference in size would be the same as going from an extra slim fit to a slim fit, which seems a bit extreme to me.
 

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Hi everyone. Quick question for those that have experience with this.

Looking to buy a shirt that is sold out in my normal neck size. Thinking about sizing up in the neck but I noticed that the other dimensions (chest, waist, shoulder) are considerable larger, according to the size chart. Can anyone confirm this? The difference in size would be the same as going from an extra slim fit to a slim fit, which seems a bit extreme to me.
Sounds right to me.
 

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Hi everyone. Quick question for those that have experience with this.

Looking to buy a shirt that is sold out in my normal neck size. Thinking about sizing up in the neck but I noticed that the other dimensions (chest, waist, shoulder) are considerable larger, according to the size chart. Can anyone confirm this? The difference in size would be the same as going from an extra slim fit to a slim fit, which seems a bit extreme to me.
I can confirm this. Based on several shirts in ESF and SF, sizing up in ESF, sizing down in SF, normal neck size in SF.
 
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Just chiming in to say that I really don't understand the shipping discrepancies with Spier. Sometimes they'll ship right away and other times, like my current order, it's an eternity. Order placed on Aug 1 and still hasn't shipped. Two weeks? That's unacceptable and I'm still waiting for a reply to an email I sent.
 

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The dark brown suede looks nice. I'm assuming that they have not updated the product code to reflect FW23? It says FW22

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