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[hdgzsujh]

I'm thinking about dyeing the natural welt on my Zug Stows. What are your experiences with dyeing natural welts to a dark brown or black? What dyes did you use and how did you do it? As the stitching on the welt is probably some synthetic material, does it hold the dye? Does the sealing on the leather in the heel keep the dye from penetrating into the leather?

Thanks.

 

[CrashBurner]

I'm thinking about dyeing the natural welt on my Zug Stows. What are your experiences with dyeing natural welts to a dark brown or black? What dyes did you use and how did you do it? As the stitching on the welt is probably some synthetic material, does it hold the dye? Does the sealing on the leather in the heel keep the dye from penetrating into the leather?

Thanks.

I didn't actually dye the welts. I masked the natural welt of the Cap Toe boot (the dye still managed to get through in a couple of spots - but I'm okay with that). The Roy boot was fine to work with unmasked because the welt colour was already a very dark brown. Having a look at the welt and stitching on the Roys, I can see patches of blue dye in the right light, so I'd say the stitching and welt would hold the dye no problem.

 

[MSAINT]

Tricker's Stow X END today

 

[REDMOND]

Beauties I was waiting out for a code and missed those..

 

[MSAINT]

I jumped on those when END put those beauties on sale last year!

But I find them more attractive with the reddish soles (their following collection)

 

[REDMOND]

End have restocked them but not in my size..I bought my wife the Parisian blue with the Orange sole it works really well

 

[hdgzsujh]

I didn't actually dye the welts. I masked the natural welt of the Cap Toe boot (the dye still managed to get through in a couple of spots - but I'm okay with that). The Roy boot was fine to work with unmasked because the welt colour was already a very dark brown. Having a look at the welt and stitching on the Roys, I can see patches of blue dye in the right light, so I'd say the stitching and welt would hold the dye no problem.

Ah, thanks. First thought the one set of pictures was the pair before dyeing and the other set with the dye applied. Reading your post again made it clear .

@MSAINT
In Germany there aren't many sources for Saphir dye. Is this (http://www.thegoodthings.de/saphir-lederfarbe?c=54) the stuff you would use to get natural welts dark or is another dye better?

 

[CrashBurner]

Ah, thanks. First thought the one set of pictures was the pair before dyeing and the other set with the dye applied. Reading your post again made it clear .

@MSAINT
In Germany there aren't many sources for Saphir dye. Is this (http://www.thegoodthings.de/saphir-lederfarbe?c=54) the stuff you would use to get natural welts dark or is another dye better?

No problem hdgzsuijh.

 

[hdgzsujh]

Just ordered a pair of Stow/Dainite in burnished Espresso with natural welt from the Trickers outlet. Will dye them and sell the Zug.

 

[MSAINT]



End have restocked them but not in my size..I bought my wife the Parisian blue with the Orange sole it works really well

The red sole is in my opinion the best color option as a sole (apart from the usual black and brown)

 

[MSAINT]



@MSAINT

In Germany there aren't many sources for Saphir dye. Is this (http://www.thegoodthings.de/saphir-lederfarbe?c=54) the stuff you would use to get natural welts dark or is another dye better?

Nope! That's dye for plain leathers used to dye the uppers, the sole edges have received a special wax in the factory, m0m0ne and I have discussed that a few month ago here.
This wax is applied to seal the leather from the elements and you can't dye on it... Except with the Tricker's natural welt as they seem to polish the edges of the soles after applying the wax removing most of it in the process.

There are usually two kind of products regarding the edge wax (called deforme in French):
The liquid wax (the one I use with a brush : http://accessoire-parisien.com/rech...y=position&orderway=desc&search_query=deforme) and the pasty wax that needs to be melted in and used with a machine or with special heated iron tools used by professionals.

 

[CrashBurner]

Nope! That's dye for plain leathers used to dye the uppers, the sole edges have received a special wax in the factory, m0m0ne and I have discussed that a few month ago here.
This wax is applied to seal the leather from the elements and you can't dye on it... Except with the Tricker's natural welt as they seem to polish the edges of the soles after applying the wax removing most of it in the process.

There are usually two kind of products regarding the edge wax (called deforme in French):
The liquid wax (the one I use with a brush : http://accessoire-parisien.com/rech...y=position&orderway=desc&search_query=deforme) and the pasty wax that needs to be melted in and used with a machine or with special heated iron tools used by professionals.

Thanks for the info MSAINT. That would explain the dye penetrating small sections of the natural welt on the CTBs.

 

[momone]

Nope! That's dye for plain leathers used to dye the uppers, the sole edges have received a special wax in the factory, m0m0ne and I have discussed that a few month ago here.
This wax is applied to seal the leather from the elements and you can't dye on it... Except with the Tricker's natural welt as they seem to polish the edges of the soles after applying the wax removing most of it in the process.

There are usually two kind of products regarding the edge wax (called deforme in French):
The liquid wax (the one I use with a brush : http://accessoire-parisien.com/rech...y=position&orderway=desc&search_query=deforme) and the pasty wax that needs to be melted in and used with a machine or with special heated iron tools used by professionals.

amen to that

 

[Dieg0]

Thank you for the answer!

As I understand, toes are pressed upwards significantly with such a big toe spring. Toes look upward even when standing on the ground. It looks very unnatural to stand like this.

Then foot muscles are strained much more than when foot lays flat.

Does such shoe construction lead to foot deformations? What about knee/back issues in long term?

I am sorry, I am pretty new to Trickers and may be don't understand the brand concept.

Am I right then that Trickers Bourton are not that good for walking (2-3 kilometers every day) ?

You will have more success in finding an answer when looking on blogs as theshoesnobblog.co.uk and shoe gazing.se (there is an english version)

 

[MSAINT]



You will have more success in finding an answer when looking on blogs as theshoesnobblog.co.uk and shoe gazing.se (there is an english version)

What answer? It looks like Kochegar is trying to learn the unfathomable concept of walking, the non standardization of the human feet and deeply intellectualizing it.