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Young guy, old suit

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by seen, Apr 15, 2006.

  1. seen

    seen Well-Known Member

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    I just turned 20, and got my grandfather's old suit as a present. It's a very nice subtle plaid double breasted suit, looks near new, and fits me like a charm.

    I'm getting an investing banking intern job with Morgan Stanley this summer, my grandfather was also a successful investment banker. Since I'm very close to my him, this suit means alot to me.

    I was wondering if I can pull off this suit once in a while (I have my own suits, of course). Or am I way too young to look good in a suit like that. And what kinds of shoes, shirts, and ties I can wear with it. Thanks!
     
  2. Aureus

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    No you're not too young, the only thing I get when I wear my double breasted suit is compliments and I’m but 19. If you want to get some recommendations on what would look good, you might want to tell us the color [​IMG] Though something to consider is that you will be the intern at the office. You want to send a message that says 'I can fit in with you as a professional' to the entire office. Wear what the bankers are wearing, if that means hanging up your grandfathers suit... that might be the right thing to do until you actually have a job with the company.
     
  3. skalogre

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    I just turned 20, and got my grandfather's old suit as a present. It's a very nice subtle plaid double breasted suit, looks near new, and fits me like a charm.

    I'm getting an investing banking intern job with Morgan Stanley this summer, my grandfather was also a successful investment banker. Since I'm very close to my him, this suit means alot to me.

    I was wondering if I can pull off this suit once in a while (I have my own suits, of course). Or am I way too young to look good in a suit like that. And what kinds of shoes, shirts, and ties I can wear with it. Thanks!


    Why are you worried? Because it is DB? I'd say if you feel good in it, it is a classic cut and it fits well, go for it.
     
  4. DocHolliday

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    I wouldn't worry too much, as long as it fits properly. After all, you're an intern, and few 20-year-olds have an extensive suit wardrobe. I'm sure the other fellows at the office will appreciate your effort.

    Also, it gives you a winning story to tell about your grandfather...
     
  5. Huntsman

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    Lots more info we need. Give us a pic!
     
  6. Jovan

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    I want pics too; young guys in well fitting DBs are a definite rarity and something I praise.
     
  7. Horace

    Horace Well-Known Member

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    Well, the most important question is whether it's canvased or fused.
     
  8. Monster

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    I would suggest you avoid wearing it to work though.

    Not because its inappropriate, but rather you will be spending 14+ hours in a chair each day, not wearing your jacket. It wears out the seat of your pants while the jacket doesn't see any wear. Since you say it means a lot to you, I would avoid putting it through this abuse.
     
  9. seok

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    guys at Morgan Stanley will be wearing business casual everyday, so even wearing a suit would not be advisable, not to mention a DB piece. when you do have the chance to wear suits, i'd strongly advise you to go with solid charcoal/navy, or pinstripe SB. this coming from first-hand observation and experience in the industry.
     
  10. sartorially senseless

    sartorially senseless Well-Known Member

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    guys at Morgan Stanley will be wearing business casual everyday, so even wearing a suit would not be advisable, not to mention a DB piece. when you do have the chance to wear suits, i'd strongly advise you to go with solid charcoal/navy, or pinstripe SB. this coming from first-hand observation and experience in the industry.

    as a banker myself i dont think you will find many that arent wearing a suit and tie, especialy investment banking. i suggest you listen these suggestions: navy, charcoal, and both with pinstripes...that will keep you fresh. get some nice shoes and white/blue shirts

    welcome to banking....what university are you at? must be a top 10 program to nab an intern...congrats.
     
  11. Monster

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    as a banker myself i dont think you will find many that arent wearing a suit and tie, especialy investment banking. i suggest you listen these suggestions: navy, charcoal, and both with pinstripes...that will keep you fresh. get some nice shoes and white/blue shirts

    welcome to banking....what university are you at? must be a top 10 program to nab an intern...congrats.


    Eh...morgan is still business formal? I thought lehman was the only one that business formal 24/7.

    The firm I'm with (and almost all the ones I interviewed at) were at varying stages of business casual.
     
  12. Pennglock

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    A summer analyst position isnt the proper time to busting out the plaid DB suit, trust me. You'd just be drawing drawing all the wrong kind of attention to yourself.

    Outside of work, go for it dude.
     
  13. seen

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    Thanks guys, for the replies. I am Canadian, and got the internship with Morgan Stanley Canada, whose size of operations is only a fraction of the US company. Nevertheless, it was really tough getting the position, and I'm quite happy about it.

    The dress code is very conservative business formal. I havent seen anyone wearing a bright coloured (that's how we Canadians spell color) tie or shirt. I'll post some pictures of the DB suit once I get a chance, I'm freakin out over exams right now.
     
  14. sartorially senseless

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    Thanks guys, for the replies. I am Canadian, and got the internship with Morgan Stanley Canada, whose size of operations is only a fraction of the US company. Nevertheless, it was really tough getting the position, and I'm quite happy about it.

    The dress code is very conservative business formal. I havent seen anyone wearing a bright coloured (that's how we Canadians spell color) tie or shirt. I'll post some pictures of the DB suit once I get a chance, I'm freakin out over exams right now.


    canadian here as well. its even more rare to get an IB job in Can. are you west coast or east coast?

    my suggestion still stands

    im not sure if you are in i-banking, but its one of the last professions that really prides itself on being conservative.
     
  15. Monster

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    canadian here as well. its even more rare to get an IB job in Can. are you west coast or east coast?

    my suggestion still stands



    im not sure if you are in i-banking, but its one of the last professions that really prides itself on being conservative.



    I am..and being in canada might explain it. Almost all the banks in the US are business casual. Lehman is the only one that is business formal 24/7, AFAIK. Citi is on the far end of the spectrum, where polos are rather common (unless meeting with a client..then it is business formal across the board). BofA, DB, JPM, UBS, Wachovia, etc.. are all business casual.
     
  16. Aureus

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    I recall an article, and you can find it simply by goolging morgan's dress code that says they have moved back to business formal, even in the US. They went to casual as a result of the internet companies being very very casual., and moved back after that craze ended.
     
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    Thanks guys, for the replies. I am Canadian, and got the internship with Morgan Stanley Canada, whose size of operations is only a fraction of the US company. Nevertheless, it was really tough getting the position, and I'm quite happy about it.

    The dress code is very conservative business formal. I havent seen anyone wearing a bright coloured (that's how we Canadians spell color) tie or shirt. I'll post some pictures of the DB suit once I get a chance, I'm freakin out over exams right now.


    Didn't realize that Canada MS was business formal...never mind my last mention about business casual everyday then. I was speaking for NY/HK/LN.

    You should probably find out from people at the actual office about what's common and not. My guess is that DB would stand out too much, but who knows...
     
  18. dah328

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    I recall an article, and you can find it simply by goolging morgan's dress code that says they have moved back to business formal, even in the US. They went to casual as a result of the internet companies being very very casual., and moved back after that craze ended.
    Morgan Stanley in NYC is definitely not business formal (although certain client-facing groups in any firm may have that dress code). Off the top of my head, Lehman and Bear are the only two firms I can think of that have an across-the-board business formal dress code.
     
  19. whnay.

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    Morgan Stanley in NYC is definitely not business formal (although certain client-facing groups in any firm may have that dress code). Off the top of my head, Lehman and Bear are the only two firms I can think of that have an across-the-board business formal dress code.
    That is correct, dan you in banking?
     
  20. sartorially senseless

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    im pretty certain that it is business formal when you are meeting with clients. i will also say it depends on what your role in the bank is.....the retail side of things tends to be shirt + tie same as small business, commercial is suit and tie with clients and casual everyday although there is a strong trend towards suits sans tie, or even suit + tie...every i-banking or project financer or corp.fin guy i know wears a suit and tie everyday....alll they do is sit at their desk for 16 hours a day....

    *edit*

    either way, going back to the topic of this thread: please buy a navy suit and a charcoal suit at the least...get white and blue shirts and for your first week please expect to wear a tie with them. if it turns out to be business casual, then dont wear a tie. easy. done. and et some nice shoes, that was my first mistake.
     

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