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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by impolyt_one, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. TheObserver

    TheObserver Well-Known Member

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    Spreadsheet still lacks cost columns. It would be more specific rather than just assume $780 per jacket.
     
  2. thinksyncopated

    thinksyncopated Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone else get the feeling that TOJ's policy to buy spots from people further distances themselves from responsibility?
     
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  3. klonowj

    klonowj Well-Known Member

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    Would usernames beside each jacket be a good idea to validate orders, Or is that too much?
     
  4. OuterHeaven

    OuterHeaven Well-Known Member

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    Charlie told me 2 more months a month ago. Hopefully mine will arrive by the end of the year. About to buy another spot but I can't stand the wait.
     
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  5. Spaghettimatt

    Spaghettimatt Well-Known Member

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    Man... I've been giving the benefit of the doubt for a while now.

    But the data on that spreadsheet is... not encouraging.
     
  6. Dbear

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    This is really the best thread on sf, can't wait to see how it ends!
     
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  7. Distorbiant

    Distorbiant Well-Known Member

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    A year ago, I remember laughing at people who bought into the Dayton service boot. How could anyone be so stupid as to wait that long?

    And here I am.
     
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  8. jim_n

    jim_n Well-Known Member

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    Drew man up and tell us you used our lamb for the seats in your restaurant
     
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  9. capnMURPHY2021

    capnMURPHY2021 Well-Known Member

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    pitchforks and torches
     
  10. Dbear

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    Well, that's certainly where we are today but tomorrow is another chapter, ohhhh the intrigue
     
  11. misterswag

    misterswag Well-Known Member

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    Let's see. Maybe Drew can come in and calm all fears.

    FYI, still have a spot here for a daypack for $350
     
  12. ktown

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    Jesus as this file gets more and more populated, I'm thinking my money is gone. Compare the number of green data points vs no fill data points. 23 vs 132 at the time of this writing.
     
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  13. wangjt

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    You just helped crash TOJ stocks today. You'd be lucky if you got $100 back for that daypack.

    EDIT: I'll take it off your hands for $100.
     
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  14. ktown

    ktown Well-Known Member

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    TOJ crashed its own stock. Since they couldn't provide any useful information ("orders from x to y will get shipped on z"), users had to compile their own information to draw some conclusions. At this point, the data seems overwhelmingly in favor of the disgruntled.
     
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  15. klonowj

    klonowj Well-Known Member

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    Would it kind of be funny if either of these two outcomes happened...

    A serious case of disgruntlement is gonna set in, mostly for the people that ordered in late 2014 and they won't have the patience to stay the course and wait around. They band together to organize a forced return which messes with the capital for whats left in production. We're screwed.

    Or PayPal get involved, which i don't think is good for anybody at this point yet, and due to all the complaints freezes toj pp accounts indefinitely. If those accounts are empty, They could just credit refunds under they're own discretion, and It would be up to toj to resolve a negative balance with PayPal. If they didn't then eventually the debt would be passed on to debt collectors. We're screwed. PayPal does this, but seams like an unlikely scenario here i guess. Pretty sure PP usually waives all responsibility after 45 days after payment for anything.

    ^ We could end up being the reason for our own demise. Not sure why I'm posting any of this... because I do think everyone will get there stuff.... eventually. Just some more unhealthy speculation.
     
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  16. Distorbiant

    Distorbiant Well-Known Member

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    Anyone have an idea on why they're taking so long to ship stuff out that's already made?

    It's hard to believe that there haven't been any jackets to ship out for all of october, which is almost over already.

    edit: Looks like the September shipments were all done at once.
     
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  17. misterswag

    misterswag Well-Known Member

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    i just decided to have a bad attitude about this today. Getting tired of waiting.

    As for selling my spot, my grievance is more that I don't want the backpack 2 or more months from now, I wanted it back in august. If anyone is willing to wait, I'm sure they may very well receive the daypack eventually. Someone who has a jacket in this already may wish to double down with an accessory.
     
  18. klonowj

    klonowj Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure if there are many jackets to ship, but if there is.... I think it was mentioned that production was a hours away from any of them? I can see putting off a day that requires hours of traveling for several weeks at a time because they're just too busy or tired from there regular work week.
     
  19. Dbear

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    People all laughed when I said this before, but no funds? EMS isn't cheap.

    Would be the same reason why they can't refund you on the spot.

    Restaurants are a money sink.
     
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