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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. MarkI

    MarkI Well-Known Member

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    Just ripped ass while dead lifting, whoops. First time that's happened hahaha
     
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  2. Cool The Kid

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    Crossfit "doesn't make you good at everything". "Everything" is incredibly specialized, with a lot of mental & coordination issues specific to each sport.
     
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  3. Find Finn

    Find Finn Well-Known Member

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    Crossfit is a good all round workout, for people who don't want to live at the gym.
     
  4. mrchariybrown

    mrchariybrown Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to have to echo that.. I don't agree that crossfit makes you good at everything.

    Is crossfit good for conditioning? Sure (although, I think there are much easier and safer ways to build up conditioning).

    In theory, crossfit would perfect your oly lift technique, would make you strong, build endurance, and make you good as those seizure-induced pullups. BUTTTTTTT with a "sport" that relies so heavily on coaching,(so much so that every single crossfit gym I've seen can only be used through classes), crossfitters' skill set/technique will only be as "good" as their "coaches." And for the most part, crossfit trainers suck ass and have no idea what they're doing.

    Note, that I'm not disregarding ALL crossfit trainers.. I'm certain there are a lot of guys out there who are very capable to teaching their trainees good form and technique while still pushing them hard. My friend is friends with Scott Paltos and I've seen his videos and his ramblings, and he knows his stuff... but then again that guy has a background in football, baseball, powerlifting, and strongman. :)




    TL:DR, For the majority of people, crossfit is okay for some conditioning.. but "good" at "everything"? LOL
     
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  5. Lagrangian

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    just got my almost two year old prescription revised. shit it's like I instantly switched from 240p to HD in youtube.

    so mad jelly of you 20/20 guys


    no, it really wouldn't.

    agreed on the coaching thing 100%.
     
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  6. fuji

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    Would pay to lift at a crossfit facility if they weren't like $200 a month and i didn't have to have a group of over zealous 30 year olds who think they'e athletes yell motivational slogans at me during each set because they generally have pretty good equipment. You don't really hear about it in England though, but whenever I lift on the military base gym theres always some guy doing cleans in a gas mask or something.
     
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  7. Lagrangian

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    also before shitstorm, josh is probably one of the few non koolaid-drinking guys doing @fit, which is i think the most laughed at aspect.

    @fit is probably super ok for ppl who don't really have specific goals or are not intending to compete in a specific sport. If one is however, it makes almost no sense to go after a specific skillset with nonspecific training.
     
  8. Cool The Kid

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    I feel like a lift/sprint/swim A/B/C day routine would yield the same results, be safer and not cost the $$$ & soul content of X-fit

    But to each their own. I know a few guys who got into it who wouldn't have got into exercise at all otherwise.
     
  9. MarkI

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    I mean, I play pick up ball and soccer on the weekends or days off, but I don't think my doing a strength/bodybuilding workout directly improves my performance in either. I just lift because it feels good, and it makes me look good.

    I'm not going to pretend I'm doing it for any other reasons, I think these crossfit people are just lying to themselves, how many of these "athletes" actually play a sport?

    It's like a cult
     
  10. TeeKay

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    Doing Crossfit doesn't make you good at everything, it makes you good at doing Crossfit.

    It's a fantastic program for those people who don't have any defined goals and equate a "good workout" with feeling gassed and pukey rather than actually progressing. It's good for people who like to check "workout" off their list of things to do for the day and move along with their lives. It's good for people who want to take off their shirt at the beach and not feel as embarrassed as they used to.

    And most of all, it's really fucking good for people who actually hate exercise but can tolerate it with a sense of competition, group liability, and quick workouts. They even advertise how short their workouts are specifically to target that crowd.
     
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  11. deadly7

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    1. Get gainz
    2. Drive into paint
    3. Power through people's block attempts
    4. Score

    Pretty easy direct improvement. And it's fun as hell. Obviously it only works up to a certain point, no matter how much stronger you get. A 5 foot tall guy built like a tank won't get through an NBA center consistently.
     
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  12. joshuadowen

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    To be clear, the claim wasn't the Crossfit makes people good at everything, it was that it makes people competent at everything. There's a big difference between competent and good. Competent is defined as "adequate but not exceptional." I think this is a fair assessment of Crossfit. It will make you an adequate Oly lifter, runner, etc.

    I also think one of the things that gets overlooked by critics is that like it or not, Crossfit has created more interest in power lifting and olympic lifting than there's been in the US in a long time, maybe ever.

    As far as coaching, I agree 100 percent. I got really lucky early on to have coaches who both knew what they were talking about and wouldn't let new athletes get into dangerous situations. While traveling, I've dropped into some Crossfit gyms that I wouldn't recommend to anyone.
     
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    The thing that chaps my ass is that the whole 'crossfit is a sport' thing feels like a gimmick to sell more franchises, and they present the crossfit games competitors as the pinnacle of natural athletic performance, but have a super weak testing policy which pretty much anyone with half a brain could beat.

    plus dumb shit like this;

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  14. Lagrangian

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    maybe Steiner and Velagic do crossfit?

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    Towers Well-Known Member

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    do they also do this;

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    or this;

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  16. Lagrangian

    Lagrangian Well-Known Member

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    kinda not really srs namsayin
     
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    I have a funny video of me doing crossfit when I was like 137lbs.

    I like giving my crossfit friends on Facebook shit. Like when they pics of them deadlifting 185 with a mixed grip and ask them why they are reverse gripping anything under 400lbs.
     
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    didn't get as sweet race photos as last time, but still pretty cool.

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  20. Find Finn

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    I do CF and have for a couple years, I seen more results in a couple of months of CF, than a year of going to the gym on my own.

    CF has existed for years and years before the name got trademarked and the exercises are very similar to football and racer car drivers work outs.

    I think Danish CF gyms/boxes/whatever they are called, are a lot different from American ones, as I've only seen two motivational quotes and no ones yells motivational shit at you (thankfully).

    Regarding trainers, all I've come across have seemed very competent and all come from various sports (Volleyball, Gymnast etc), so they seem a lot more knowledgeable than trainers at a gym, who went to PT school for a week and have thighs as I have arms.

    I'm not a team player at any level (got a lot of grief for that at school), so organized sports have never been my cup of tea, so no I don't play ball or anything.
     

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