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How to get the center dimple in a tie?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by cpadude, Mar 25, 2007.

  1. Sartorian

    Sartorian Well-Known Member

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    Related question:

    What's the secret to getting the knot to stand away from the collar and give the front of the tie some billow? Is it:

    collar stays/bars
    the knot itself
    special tightening
    having something to tuck the front of the tie behind to push it upwards

    ...what?
     
  2. Manton

    Manton Well-Known Member

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    Sartorian, it's really the thickness/heft of the silk, and the quality of the lining. A hefty tie with a good lining will arch naturally, and stay that way for a long time. A flimsy, droopy tie just won't. A tie clip helps maintain the arch, but a lot of guys find them dorky, the kind of thing an IRS clerk would have worn in the '60s. (I love mine, FWIW, and Astaire loved his ...)
     
  3. Despos

    Despos Well-Known Member

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    Related question:

    What's the secret to getting the knot to stand away from the collar and give the front of the tie some billow? Is it:

    collar stays/bars
    the knot itself
    special tightening
    having something to tuck the front of the tie behind to push it upwards

    ...what?


    There was a thread that described a method of twisting the tie before finishing the knot and produce exactly the effect you want. If not here on SF check out AA.
     
  4. J'aimelescravates

    J'aimelescravates Well-Known Member

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    To make a decent dimple, I find it works best to tie the tie loosely, as noted above. Don't cinch the knot tight and then pull it up into the collar. When you put the front blade through to form the knot, leave it loose. Make sure the part of the front blade that is inside the knot is spread out and smooth, without any folds. If you pull up the knot and there are already folds in there, they will set and make a centered dimple impossible.

    Gently pull the knot up into the collar before you tighten it. Then work in the dimple as you tighten and fix in place the knot. Basically, all you need to do is press an impression into the tie, just below the knot, with your index finger. Make sure to center the impression. Then, as you gently tighten the knot, keep your index finger there and use your thumb and middle finger to hold the sides of the dimple even. Don't over tighten. If your knot ends up looking like something worn by the cast of LA Law, it's too tight.


    +1...It's really simple just try it a couple of times. Pinch the tie between with your index finger between your thumb and middle finger before you tighten the knot. Hold the pinch as you tighten and move the knot up to your collar.
     
  5. YOgun27

    YOgun27 Well-Known Member

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    What's wrong with "The Dimpler" besides the $15 price tag? It seems like a practical device worth about $2.
     
  6. spertia

    spertia Well-Known Member

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    What's wrong with "The Dimpler" besides the $15 price tag? It seems like a practical device worth about $2.

    It's cheesy and unnecessary. Why use a tool when your hand works just as well?
     
  7. mikej77

    mikej77 Well-Known Member

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  8. lpwb32

    lpwb32 Well-Known Member

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    one common mistake that makes dimples nearly impossible is pulling the tie down as opposed to pushing the knot up.
     
  9. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Well-Known Member

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    It's cheesy and unnecessary. Why use a tool when your hand works just as well?

    It's like the Pasta Express. Step 1: Boil some water in a pot. Step 2: Pour the water in the Pasta Express. Step 3: Add pasta. Step 4: Wait for 10 minutes for half-cooked pasta. Step 5: Wash pot and Pasta Express.

    Why not just put the pasta in the pot?
     
  10. lee_44106

    lee_44106 Well-Known Member

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    A little off the original post, but I personally do not like the "perfect" dimple. Looks too contrived, in my opinion.

    I find thicker ties dimple better. Instead of the "Dimpler" device, I've also sometimes just use a pen or a smooth stick.
     

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