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HOF: What Are You Wearing Right Now - Part IV (starting May 2014)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, May 21, 2014.

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  1. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Well-Known Member

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    I take it you have heard ravings like mine before, lol.

    On your second point, I think you are arguing two different things. First, the concept of "just" and "justified" are subjective. They are open to interpretation and offer great opportunities for debate. The point being, they are not facts but they are not necessarily untrue either. So arguing over whether education emphasizes subjective terms too much is something you are never going to completely win. Second, climate change, and human involvement, are issues of concrete fact. Either the climate is changing or it isn't. Either humans are partially or completely responsible, or they aren't. So the answer to solving these two problems is different. For the latter it is very simple. Teach what we believe we know based on the best information available. For the first, we must admit that we are interpreting evidence and making value judgments on them. If you do not admit that you are making value judgments, you end up with students like the one who told me "Indians never fought wars for bad reasons, like Europeans did". A false statement for sure, but one that comes from being taught opinion as if they were fact.
     
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  2. SeaJen

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    Perhaps if you flipped the classroom they wouldn't be quite so bored [​IMG]
     
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  3. erictheobscure

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    They can bore me or I can bore them. I get paid the exact same amount either way. I'm making the rational choice.
     
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  4. SeaJen

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    Agreed. One of the topics I teach is systems thinking and systems dynamics. It encourages multiple perspectives of problems and solutions and helps us recognize that some problems are convergent and some divergent, so consensus opinions about solutions will often be impossible because of the nature of wicked problems themselves. However, that does not make EVERY problem divergent, or EVERY solution to a divergent problem a feasible or reasonable one.

    But I was actually referring, with that bold comment, to your earlier point about making history more patriotic. My recollection of the issue was that history books should downplay the negative parts of US history. It was in Colorado, wasnt it? That is where my sister is a professor, so I'm sure that is from whom I was hearing it.
     
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    For now, I'll spare you all my thoughts on both flipped classrooms and the relationship between education and ideology, and just put this up:

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  6. Caustic Man

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    Yes, but that too is sort of a nuanced argument I suppose. Meaning that I have a big problem with government mandating that history be patriotic. I have a problem with a professor actually believing that U.S. history is patriotic, but for different reasons. It's not an issue of academic freedom in that case.
     
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    Let's not get started on what constitutes academic freedom - most professors have no clue what that actually defends and use it to defend everything, but I think we've bored the rest of the thread enough already, so I will close with a photo of what I am wearing today. Good discourse.

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  8. Caustic Man

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    Okay SeaJen. Love those trousers.
     
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  9. in stitches

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    Sorry to disrupt this heady conversation, but lol zipper penis.
     
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  10. Caustic Man

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    As if to put an exclamation mark on our conversation, as soon as I got outside I stepped in a giant pile of dog shit.
     
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  11. Claghorn

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    My spring tie, as it's in the high 70's here.

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    SF Family:
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  12. in stitches

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    ZOMG A SUIT!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK, YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OR SOMETHING!??

    SUIT ALERT SUIT ALERT!!! SO OBVIOUS!!!








    Square is perfect here this time imo.
     
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  13. Claghorn

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    Settle down, settle down. Plenty of slubs, and I had to stand in front of a bunch of people. Though I spent a lot of time sitting in front of a bunch of people. I made sure that they could see I was wearing shoes with leather soles and inlayed metal toe taps so that they could see how important I am.
     
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    Featuring Luxire's bulletproof denim shirt and overly saturated color

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    Very nice SB. Care to share the maker of that shirt?

    (Edit: Oh, nevermind...I see you posted it already...sorry...)
     
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    If someone told me that was what they were wearing I would've said that I surely hate it, but I actually think that looks nice, SB. What pants?
     
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    Obv no pants...pic was only created for SF no irl.
     
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    I suppose it could...

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