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Edward Green RTW or Crockett & Jones Handgrade

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by greasymonkey, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. greasymonkey

    greasymonkey Well-Known Member

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    Hi Folks,
    Am in a dilema here as i have the opportunity to buy 2 pairs of Crockett and Jones handgrades or an Edward Green RTW. The choices here are the Belgrave and Selborne from Crockett and the choice of Asquith,Chelsea or Berkley.
    Both brands fit me very comfotably so comfortable in that position but cant seem to make my mind on the basis of VFM or leather quality. Any advise will be much appreciated.
     
  2. add911_11

    add911_11 Well-Known Member

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    Go for C&J handgrade. normal EG RTW does not worth the up charge, only their colouring is better and has a better arch support.
     
  3. Ich_Dien

    Ich_Dien Well-Known Member

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    I prefer EG lasts.
     
  4. greasymonkey

    greasymonkey Well-Known Member

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    when you say the Edward Green colouring are you refering to specific colours like chestnut, pine or general colouring of leather.
     
  5. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Well-Known Member

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    ^^ Agree with above SF members.

    If EG & C&J's fit you comfortably, and you want a specific answer to your question: Can't make my mind on the basis of VFM or leather quality....


    Then your dead cert, win/win situation is to go for the 2 pairs of C&J's Handgrade over 1 pair of EG RTW....If it's my size I'll take up the offer if you do decline.
     
  6. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Well-Known Member

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    Go with the C&Js. Buy EGs when you decide that you have too much money lying around.
     
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  7. add911_11

    add911_11 Well-Known Member

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    I do mean their general colouring. Even the black has a good charm and rich in depth. However, any of their colours can be done better if you can dye leather yourself, in other words a good DIY dying will be just as good.
     
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  8. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]

    C&J's are the Vass of British shoes, solid and VFM.
     
  9. add911_11

    add911_11 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for mentioning Vass. Are you ready to bite the bullet on selecting the size and last without trying it?

    It is safe especially if you can send a precise feet measurement to Vass' email account.
     
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  10. greasymonkey

    greasymonkey Well-Known Member

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    i seem to agree with that notion for a few minutes on the basis that having more pairs of Crockett handgrades that i can rotate during the week should give me more years of wear from them than having a pair of the Edward Green. In another instance the Edward Green bug gets to me and i say to myself i want 1 of their shoes.
     
  11. greasymonkey

    greasymonkey Well-Known Member

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    With the arch support you are refering can you elaborate a bit. All inputs so far are much appreciated by SF members.
     
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  12. add911_11

    add911_11 Well-Known Member

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    An arch support helps the comfortability during walking, it takes time to get used to.
     
  13. archetypal_yuppie

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    This is true or false depending the physiology of one's foot.
     
  14. rabiesinfrance

    rabiesinfrance Well-Known Member

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    C&J Handgrade is the same leather as EG is it not? C&J sales staff will tell you it is.
     
  15. add911_11

    add911_11 Well-Known Member

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    Yep that very true, I have a slightly flat and wide feet so the extra arch support does help a bit.


    I think the leather grade and finish is equal, however EG seems to be a touch thicker.
     
  16. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Well-Known Member

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    In my judgement, C&J's have a heavier build with seemingly thicker leathers and definitely more stiffeners (heel), and slightly lower grade finishing. However the difference in finishing is only notable on close inspection (not visible in the wild).

    Except for the C&J Weymouth; the leather on mine wore terribly (washed out in color, pronounced creasing), so I would avoid C&J wholecuts myself. I have no basis to judge whether it's idiosynchratic or systematic.

    For the record I have 3 C&Js, ~8 EGs, and I am glad to have the C&Js.

    And I still strongly recommend the C&Js if you're collection of proper leather shoes stands at zero.
     
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  17. add911_11

    add911_11 Well-Known Member

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    thanks for sharing, my experience with C&J is rather different since I have the old models when they started their first retail store. Which C&J have you got?
     
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  18. greasymonkey

    greasymonkey Well-Known Member

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    On the basis of brand it seems I can't go wrong with either just a matter of principle which will be more worthwhile .
     

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