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  1. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     You say it like that was my intention, to scam people. They are in a much better position to take action against TOJ (an actual company) than I am to take action against them. I am admitting what I did was fucked up, but if I was scum, wouldn't I just contact PayPal without even warning...
  2. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     Not going to deny that this is what I did, and I'm really sorry you guys feel that way. The truth is that I panicked and what was I supposed to do? I paid over $2000 to people that weren't selling me anything. And like I said in my messages - I wasn't going to take any action until I heard...
  3. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    I got an eCheck on Sunday for the two spots I picked up from other people. (Another person refunded me for the 3rd spot to get his spot back.) I asked for a refund last week, a few days before Drew provided an update. Now I feel like I bought a house in 2008, when prices were at their highest...
  4. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     If it was a reasonable reply, with an apology of sorts, an explanation, and a best effort view of future production, I think that people would still ask questions, but not necessarily attacks. I'm with you on the last part (and respect on the A$AP reference). Last night, walking home, I...
  5. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Agree that Charly has been responsive, keeping a glimmer of hope. But maybe that's Drew's way of keeping people at arm's length until the whole ship collapses. Man up dude. Take some responsibility and say something.
  6. thinksyncopated

    Vanson/Styleforum/Thurston Bros slim fit Japanese double rider MTO

     Cool, thanks. Looking back on the first page, the weight/texture of the "inspiration" photo looks a lot softer and more matte than the photo of the modeled jacket. I would imagine this is due to lighting, but how does the look/feel of the jacket compare to the inspiration photo jacket...
  7. thinksyncopated

    Vanson/Styleforum/Thurston Bros slim fit Japanese double rider MTO

    Awesome. Looking forward to size grading. Can you tell us what kind of custom options are available? Unlike TOJ, I feel like if I pay for this, I'll receive a jacket :). Too soon?
  8. thinksyncopated

    IT'S ALL GOING TO BE OK ~ THE OFFICIAL-UNOFFICIAL TOJ EXCHANGE THREAD ~

    Selling three spots: 11/5/13: Black Lamb QDR w/ upgraded lining/zip 2/2/214: Black Lamb CWU-45 4/?/14: Navy blue calf 2010 DR w/ upgraded lining/zip Can be switched to anything I guess. PM me.
  9. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    I contacted Charly and let him know what is going on at SF. This was his reply: "I've let Drew know and he said he'd post."
  10. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Does anyone else get the feeling that TOJ's policy to buy spots from people further distances themselves from responsibility?
  11. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Added my orders as well. Starting to have more of a bad feeling about this every day.
  12. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    When is the last time some received a jacket? Going to assume it was posted here, although I guess it could easily have not been.
  13. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    It's some kind of confirmation bias. Those of us who have paid for or bought into spots want to believe that we have spent our money well and will get these products eventually. But it's really unnerving that they have all the money in full and - what if they just disappear and no one ever hears...
  14. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     Very close to what I'm thinking, but I don't think they are doing the 2013DR? My thinking is, if I ever want a rugged calf DR in the future, I'll go with the Vanson/SF one or a Schott. I appreciate all the replies! I realize it's all so subjective, like saying, "what should I order at...
  15. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    I may have gone mad, but picked up 3 TOJ spots in the past few weeks. I'm thinking: 1.) Black Lamb Quilted Double Rider 2.) Navy Calf 2010 Double Rider 3.) Black Lamb CWU-45 (ribbed collar, no suede name patch) I keep thinking I should get a brown jacket too, and the one that seems to get...
  16. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

     Thanks for the thoughtful reply (and I'm a big fan of your blog!) Agree with you regarding your first point. In regards to the second, that's not something I really thought about - the relationship between the shoulder width and the waist. I don't know why, but I feel like I've always...
  17. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    So, sidestepping the unnecessary beef above - a question for all about sizing/measurements! Specifically, shoulders, which seem to make or break fit. It seems like in 90% of the photos I see in the gallery, the seams seem (no pun intended) to slope off the shoulder bone. I don't know why, but I...
  18. thinksyncopated

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Question about the suiting wool MA-1, for those that have it - how warm is the jacket it? Usable as an NYC winter jacket, with some layering? Can't really tell based on the photos.

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