TOM FORD signature black 3 Piece Classic suit fabric questions -- 55% Mohair, 45% Cashmere

Taylorstyle · Jun 9, 2014

Hi Guys:

I'm a Tom Ford fan and all the type A suits from the house are suit me PERFECTLY just like bespoke even the seleeve length. I'm thinking a 3-piece classic T.F signature black suit (base A) online made of 55% Mohair, 45% Cashmere. I've never seen any suit fabric like it as it contains a much higher % for both of Mohair and Cashmere.

My concern is that the fabric may be too weak to wear as a business suit ( I have few TF suits and I probably wear once or max twice / week on each of them). I have know nothing about the fabric and it just gets me more confused after I googled some information online. People say ''Mohair is quite soft and may not hold crease well'' , ''cashmere is not suitable for dress pants as it easy to worn out''. So guys, please help me to decide whether should I have it in my wardrobe or simply stay it away as it may too difficult to care/handle and may very easy to worn out?

What do you think guys please? (I've attached the image from the online shop)

Appericate in advance!

Taylorstyle · Jun 9, 2014

Please kindly provide me with some of your awesome opinions, thanks

diadem · Jun 9, 2014

You should probably lurk a little more on the forums and read up a bit. For a business suit, a TF suit with that signature TF styling (large peak lapels) is the last thing you should be thinking about buying, especially in black. Also, which online shop is this? That's a horrendous pic to try and sell this suit. The sleeves are far too long...

For a business suit, stay away from black and stick with navy and charcoal. Notch lapels are a safer bet, too. Get the basics sorted out first before you start worrying about the fabric.

Taylorstyle · Jun 9, 2014

Thank you very much for your reply.

Taylorstyle · Jun 9, 2014

diadem said:
You should probably lurk a little more on the forums and read up a bit. For a business suit, a TF suit with that signature TF styling (large peak lapels) is the last thing you should be thinking about buying, especially in black. Also, which online shop is this? That's a horrendous pic to try and sell this suit. The sleeves are far too long...

For a business suit, stay away from black and stick with navy and charcoal. Notch lapels are a safer bet, too. Get the basics sorted out first before you start worrying about the fabric.

Hi,
Thank you very much for your reply.
Unfortunately I only wear large peak lapels and all my suits/coats/sport jackets are with peak lapels. It just suits me perfectly well. A classic 70s style. I've already have 4 navy, 4 charcoal, 2 black and 1 beige TF suits in the same style and I think you're right, black is not the first choice for a business suit, although sometimes I do wear the black TF suit for certain important business occasions and received tons of complaints. As I mentioned, this one is made from a totally different materials compared with the ones I got. I've also got a Kiton and a RLPL sport jacket made of 100% cashmere but never got a pants with that much high % of cashmere. Therefore I will be most appreciated if you could answer my question in a more direct way (if you know) rather than truning it into something else. Cheers

Taylorstyle · Jun 9, 2014

Any opinions please guys?
Thanks in advance

Taylorstyle · Jun 10, 2014

Anyone can help? thanks

Reosymes · Jun 10, 2014

Mohair is generally very shiny. Not sure it would work in a business setting.

dopey · Jun 10, 2014

Tom Ford make a very high quality factory suit using very good materials. I wouldn't worry about the cloth. It will easily outlast your interest in the suit.

GBR · Jun 10, 2014

An appalling suit and certainly not suitable for business purposes. Lapels big enough to cut another suit. I assume that it is second hand.

Taylorstyle · Jun 10, 2014

GBR said:
An appalling suit and certainly not suitable for business purposes. Lapels big enough to cut another suit. I assume that it is second hand.

Thanks for your reply.
It's is 100% brand new. Can you please comment on the fabric?
Have a nice day!

sstokol · Jun 10, 2014

From the great Wiki in the web:
Mohair is not a soft yarn, when compared with alpaca or cashmere, or synthetic fibers or wools that have been treated and blended with other fibers to enhance softness. On the other hand, mohair is valued for certain unique characteristics: it is warmer than other fibers, even when used to make a light-weight garment, and is often blended with wool for this reason; and mohair fibers have a distinctive luster created by the way they reflect light. Combined with mohair's ability to absorb dyes exceptionally well, pure mohair yarns are usually recognizable for their vivid saturated colours.

I imagine the blend with cashmere (which I havent seen before) is an attempt to add some smoothness and luster and prevent the cashmere being too soft and easily damaged. Mohair is a much crisper/smoother hand, whereas cashmere is obviously very soft. Hard to say the extent to which the garment would have a "sheen" or the smoothness of the hand without seeing it IRL.

I imagine as a statement piece it could work if its to your taste, and likely be more durable than pure cashmere, but still very soft and warm.

I am going to assume from your current wardrobe that whatever your line of "business" is, that it does not require a "conservative business dress approved/banker/lawyer" style suit, in which case perhaps this would work for you. To me, as I say this is more of an evening suit.

All of that said, IMHO solid black suits (outside of a Tux) screams "I bought this because I had a funeral to go to and didn't own a suit"...

Taylorstyle · Jun 10, 2014

sstokol said:
From the great Wiki in the web:
Mohair is not a soft yarn, when compared with alpaca or cashmere, or synthetic fibers or wools that have been treated and blended with other fibers to enhance softness. On the other hand, mohair is valued for certain unique characteristics: it is warmer than other fibers, even when used to make a light-weight garment, and is often blended with wool for this reason; and mohair fibers have a distinctive luster created by the way they reflect light. Combined with mohair's ability to absorb dyes exceptionally well, pure mohair yarns are usually recognizable for their vivid saturated colours.

I imagine the blend with cashmere (which I havent seen before) is an attempt to add some smoothness and luster and prevent the cashmere being too soft and easily damaged. Mohair is a much crisper/smoother hand, whereas cashmere is obviously very soft. Hard to say the extent to which the garment would have a "sheen" or the smoothness of the hand without seeing it IRL.

I imagine as a statement piece it could work if its to your taste, and likely be more durable than pure cashmere, but still very soft and warm.

I am going to assume from your current wardrobe that whatever your line of "business" is, that it does not require a "conservative business dress approved/banker/lawyer" style suit, in which case perhaps this would work for you. To me, as I say this is more of an evening suit.

All of that said, IMHO solid black suits (outside of a Tux) screams "I bought this because I had a funeral to go to and didn't own a suit"...

Thanks for your reply and all the very useful information about the fabric.
You're RIGHT I'm not a banker/lawyer and I'm working in the family business as a property developer. I also agree with you about the color, as I've already got other few same style (base A, with large peak lapel) TF suits in navy, charcoal, beige and 1 in black, so this one is pretty much just like an 'add on' and I might only wear it for certain important business occasions like when signing the contract after an auction or at opening ceremony of our projects. I think it might ok as you mentioned it's warm but also very lightweight. Cheers

EliodA · Jun 11, 2014

Taylorstyle said:
Hi,
Thank you very much for your reply.
Unfortunately I only wear large peak lapels and all my suits/coats/sport jackets are with peak lapels. It just suits me perfectly well. A classic 70s style. I've already have 4 navy, 4 charcoal, 2 black and 1 beige TF suits in the same style and I think you're right, black is not the first choice for a business suit, although sometimes I do wear the black TF suit for certain important business occasions and received tons of complaints. As I mentioned, this one is made from a totally different materials compared with the ones I got. I've also got a Kiton and a RLPL sport jacket made of 100% cashmere but never got a pants with that much high % of cashmere. Therefore I will be most appreciated if you could answer my question in a more direct way (if you know) rather than truning it into something else. Cheers

sstokol · Jun 11, 2014

Didn't even notice that, so busy was I trying to play nice.

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